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Factory Installed




DTC B2508 or B2509 (Factory Installed)

Diagnostic Instructions

* Perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle (Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle) prior to using this diagnostic procedure.
* Review Strategy Based Diagnosis (Strategy Based Diagnosis) for an overview of the diagnostic approach.
* Diagnostic Procedure Instructions (Diagnostic Procedure Instructions) provides an overview of each diagnostic category.

DTC Descriptors
DTC B2508 01
- Seat Heater Relay Circuit Short to Battery

DTC B2508 02
- Seat Heater Relay Circuit Short to Ground

Diagnostic Fault Information





Circuit/System Description

The driver and front passenger heated seat heating elements are controlled by a common high current relay internal to the memory seat module (MSM) and the low side by individual element control circuits. The MSM connects the heated seat heater element supply voltage circuits for both seats to a common reference point. This reference point is biased to approximately 2.0 volts. Before the MSM will allow heated seat operation, it checks to see if this reference voltage is shorted to ground or battery voltage. Once the MSM verifies that it is not closing to a shorted heating element, it allows heated seat operation. After which it continues to monitor for a shorted circuit.

Conditions for Running the DTC

The MSM must be powered.

Conditions for Setting the DTC

B2508 02

Before the heated seats are activated, the MSM detects a short to ground on the seat heating element supply voltage circuit or control circuit.

B2508 01

Before the heated seats are activated, the MSM detects a short to battery voltage on the seat heating element supply voltage circuit or control circuit.

Action Taken When the DTC Sets

The heated seat function for both seats will be disabled.

Conditions for Clearing the DTC

* The current DTC clears when the malfunction is no longer present and the power mode changes to OFF then back to ACC or RUN.
* The history DTC will clear after 50 consecutive fault-free ignition cycles have occurred.

Reference Information
Schematic Reference

Heated/Cooled Seat Schematics ([1][2]Electrical Diagrams)
Connector End View Reference

Component Connector End Views (Connector Views)
Description and Operation

Heated Seats Description and Operation (Description and Operation)
Electrical Information Reference

* Circuit Testing (Circuit Testing)
* Connector Repairs (Connector Repairs)
* Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections (Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections)
* Wiring Repairs (Wiring Repairs)

Scan Tool Reference

Control Module References (Programming and Relearning) for scan tool information

Circuit/System Testing

1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the X1, X4 harness connectors at the MSM.
2. Test for infinite resistance between the control circuit terminal 14 X1 and ground.

If not the specified value, test the control circuits listed below for a short to ground:

* Driver seat cushion and back element terminal 14 X1
* Driver seat cushion element terminal 11 X1
* Driver seat back element terminal 1 X1

3. Test for infinite resistance between the control circuit terminal 6 X1 and ground.

If not the specified value, test the control circuits listed below for a short to ground:

* Passenger seat cushion and back element terminal 6 X1
* Passenger seat cushion element terminal 14 X4
* Passenger seat back element terminal 4 X1

4. Ignition ON, verify that a test lamp does not illuminate between the supply voltage circuit terminal 14 X1 and ground.

If the test lamp illuminates, test the control circuits listed below for a short to voltage:

* Driver seat cushion and back element terminal 14 X1
* Driver seat cushion element terminal 11 X1
* Driver seat back element terminal 1 X1

5. Verify that a test lamp does not illuminate between the supply voltage circuit terminal 6 X1 and ground.

If the test lamp illuminates, test the control circuits listed below for a short to voltage:

* Passenger seat cushion and back element terminal 6 X1
* Passenger seat cushion element terminal 14 X4
* Passenger seat back element terminal 4 X1

6. If all circuits test normal, replace the MSM.

Repair Instructions

Perform the Diagnostic Repair Verification (Verification Tests) after completing the diagnostic procedure.

* Driver or Passenger Seat Back Cushion Heater Replacement (Driver or Passenger Seat Back Cushion Heater Replacement)
* Driver or Passenger Seat Cushion Heater Replacement (Driver or Passenger Seat Cushion Heater Replacement)
* Control Module References (Programming and Relearning) for the MSM replacement, setup, and programming