Body - Power Sliding Door Won't Close Completely
01-0201November 27, 2001
Applies T0:
1999-01 Odyssey EX -ALL
Power Sliding Door Does Not Close Completely
(Supersedes S/B 01-020, dated February 27, 2001)
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SYMPTOM
When you close the power sliding door, the rear portion of the door goes in and then pops out to the half-latched position. When you put the vehicle into gear, the sliding door alarm sounds.
PROBABLE CAUSE
Misaligned junction switch, faulty remote control switch, or faulty closer motor-latch assembly.
CORRECTIVE ACTION
Align the sliding door and junction switch, replace the faulty remote control switch, or replace the faulty closer motor-latch assembly.
PARTS INFORMATION
WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION
In warranty:
The normal warranty applies.
Operation Number: From the Flat Rate Manual
Flat Rate Time: From the Flat Rate Manual
Failed Part: Use the part number from the repair order.
Defect Code: From the Flat Rate Manual
Contention Code: From the Flat Rate Manual
Skill Level: Repair Technician
Out of warranty:
Any repair performed after warranty expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work.
REPAIR PROCEDURE
1. Make sure all recalls for the vehicle have been completed (see S/B 99-054, Safety Recall: Odyssey Sliding Doors, and S/B 00-047, Safety Recall: Rear Door Latch Assembly; filed under Body).
2. ** Align the affected sliding door, then align the junction switch (see S/B 99-072, Sliding Door Alarm Beeps, filed under Body Electrical). **
3. Test-drive the vehicle on a rough road, then test the affected sliding door by opening and closing it several times.
Does the door close completely?
** Yes - Return the vehicle to your customer. **
No - Go to step 4.
4. ** With the door fully closed, press the OPEN side of the dashboard door switch for the affected door. Does the door open normally?
Yes - Go to step 5.
No - Left door: Inspect the No. 1 (20A) fuse in the passenger's under-dash fuse/relay box. If the fuse is OK, repair the open in the GRN wire between the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box and the power sliding door control unit.
Right door: Inspect the No. 5 (20A) fuse in the passenger's under-dash fuse/relay box. If the fuse is OK, repair the open in the RED/YEL wire between the passenger's under-dash fuse/relay box and the power sliding door control unit.
5. Close the sliding door with the dashboard door switch. As it reaches the half-latched position, listen to the sliding door alarm.
Does the alarm beep five times as the door reaches the B-pillar?
Yes - Go to step 6. **
No-Go to step 11.
6. With the affected sliding door open, measure the voltage to body ground at terminal D of the body-side junction switch.
Is there 10 V or more?
** Yes - Go to step 7.
No - Repair the open in the YEL/GRN wire between the power sliding door control unit and the junction switch. **
7. Remove the B-pillar trim and the front seat belt retractor (see section 23 of the 1999-02 Odyssey Service Manual for SRS precautions).
8. With one of the voltmeter test leads, backprobe terminal No. 3 of the junction switch connector, and ground the other lead. Then close the sliding door, and watch the voltage reading as the door closes.
Does the voltage drop to less than 1 V when the door reaches the half-latched position?
Yes - Check terminal No. 8 of the power sliding door control unit connector A (26P) for a poor fit. ** Replace or repair the terminal as needed. **
No - Go to step 9.
9. With the sliding door open, use a small screwdriver to push the latch into the half-latched position.
10. ** '99-00 models: Check for continuity between terminals D and J of the door-side junction switch. '01 models: Check for continuity between terminals D and K of the door-side junction switch. **
** Is there continuity?
Yes - Replace both the door and body junction switch (see S/B 99-072, Sliding Door Alarm Beeps, filed under Body Electrical, for replacement and alignment procedures.
No - Repair the open in the YEL/GRN or the BLK wire. If the circuit is OK, replace the closer motor-latch assembly (see page 20-16 of the 1999-02 Odyssey Service Manual). **
11. Remove the door panel from the affected sliding door (see page 20-13 of the 1999-02 Odyssey Service Manual).
12. Backprobe terminal No. 1 and terminal No. 3 of the closer motor-latch assembly connector. Use long voltmeter test leads so you can check voltage while the sliding door is closing.
13. ** Open the sliding door, then close it with the dashboard door switch. Watch the voltage reading as the door closes.
Is there at least 6 V available to the closer motor when the door reaches the half-latched position?
Yes - Go to step 23.
No - Go to step 14. **
14. Open the affected sliding door, and remove the B-pillar trim and the front seat belt retractor (see section 23 of the 1999-02 Odyssey Service Manual for SRS precautions).
15. Backprobe terminal No. 1 and terminal No. 2 of the junction switch connector.
16. ** Close the sliding door with the dashboard door switch, and watch the voltage reading as the door closes. **
Is battery voltage available when the door reaches the half-latched position?
** Yes - Check terminals No. 1 and No. 2 of the junction switch connector for a poor fit. If the fit is OK, replace both sides of the junction switch, and adjust them (see S/B 99-072, Sliding Door Alarm Beeps, filed under Body Electrical, for replacement and alignment procedures). **
No - Go to step 17.
17. ** Remove the power sliding door control unit (see page 22-298 of the 1999-02 Odyssey Service Manual). **
18. Unplug power sliding door control unit connector A (26P) from the power sliding door control unit. Unplug the junction switch connector at the affected sliding door.
19. ** Left door: Check for continuity between terminal No. 1 of the power sliding door control unit connector A (26P) and terminal No. 2 of the junction switch connector.
Right door: Check for continuity between terminal No. 26 of the power sliding door control unit connector A (26P) and terminal No. 2 of the junction switch connector.
Is there continuity?
Yes - Go to step 20.
No - Repair the open in the BLU/YEL wire between the power sliding door control unit and the junction switch connector. Plug in the junction switch connector and the power sliding door control unit connector A (26P). Reinstall the power sliding door control unit.
20. Left door: Check for continuity between terminal No. 2 of the power sliding door control unit connector A (26P) and terminal No. 1 of the junction switch connector.
Right door: Check for continuity between terminal No. 12 of the power sliding door control unit and terminal No. 1 of the junction switch connector.
Is there continuity?
Yes - Go to step 21.
No - Repair the open in the BLU/WHT wire between the power sliding door control unit and the junction switch connector. Plug in the junction switch connector and the power sliding door control unit connector A (26P). Reinstall the power sliding door control unit.
21. With the sliding door open, and control unit connector A (26P) still unplugged, plug in the junction switch connector, then check for continuity between terminal No.1 of the junction switch connector and body ground.
Is there continuity?
Yes - Repair the short to ground in the BLU/WHT wire. Plug in the power sliding door control unit connector A (26P). Reinstall the power sliding door control unit.
No - Go to step 22.
22. Check for continuity between terminal No. 2 of the junction switch connector and body ground.
Is there continuity?
Yes - Repair the short to ground in the BLU/YEL wire. Plug in the power sliding door control unit connector A (26P). Reinstall the power sliding door control unit.
No - Check the connections at the appropriate power sliding door control unit. If OK, replace the power sliding door control unit. **
23. Remove the closer motor-latch assembly (see page 20-16 of the 1999-02 Odyssey Service Manual). Hold the assembly vertically. Push up the fail-safe lever, then release it. The lever should fall without binding.
Does the fail-safe lever fall without binding?
Yes - Go to step 24.
** No - Replace the closer motor-latch assembly (see page 20-16 of the 1999-02 Odyssey Service Manual). **
24. Remove the remote control switch-release motor assembly. Make sure all of the levers and motors move without binding.
Do any of the levers bind?
** Yes - Replace the remote control switch-release motor assembly (see page 20-16 of the 1999-02 Odyssey Service Manual).
No - Replace the closer motor-latch assembly (see page 20-16 of the 1999-02 Odyssey Service Manual). Make sure you install the new cables that come with the new closer motor-latch assembly. **
25. Test-drive the vehicle on a rough road, then test the affected sliding door by opening and closing it several times to make sure the door is fixed.
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